詹皇最大的優點也是他致命的缺點

Is arguably LeBron's greatest strength also his greatest weakness?

勒布朗最大的優點也是他致命的缺點？

Probably just another off-season shit-post for this sub to pass some time, but just wanted to know if anyone else catches my drift with this.

我這個可能是休賽期的又一個水帖。大傢伙可以看這個貼來打發打發時間，不過我想知道有沒有人和我持相同的看法。

Let me just start by saying LeBron is still the best player in the game and has already cemented himself as a Top 5 GOAT at the absolute worst. Not meant to bash him in any way, just want to look at him and his game more critically.

首先我想說，勒布朗仍然是聯盟第一人，而且他已經奠定了自己最最最起碼歷史前五的地位，我這個貼的用意不是要黑他啊，只是想用批判性思維審視下他這個球員以及他的比賽風格。

Of all LeBron's strengths, I think most of us would agree that getting the most of lesser rosters is probably the first or second best. I've said multiple times on here that LeBron gives you probably the best floor of any superstar in history.

我覺得我們大多數人都會認同，勒布朗將稀爛的陣容昇華的能力是他數一數二的優點。我在Reddit說了很多次了，勒布朗是歷史上帶隊能力最強的超巨。

There is no guy in history I would trust more than LeBron to take a team of a bunch of less-than-stellar players and prop them up into relevancy in the league. Give him the ball and he will create something good no matter how bad the guys around him are.

如果要讓我選一個能夠帶領一羣不入流球員並讓他們變好的球星的話，詹姆斯是不二人選。不管他身邊的球員有多糟糕，只要球在詹姆斯手中，他就能化腐朽爲神奇。

The things that he has been able to do with some of the rosters he's had are just phenomenal and I don't think anyone else could do the things he's done.

他帶領一些稀鬆平常的陣容打出來的成績簡直是現象級的，我不覺得有其他人能複製他的表現。

But, a high floor can only get you so far. Having a higher ceiling is pretty important as well. Of course, there's no way a 4x MVP and 3x champion has by any means a low ceiling, but I think it's safe to say that due to the nature of his game, the ceiling of a team built around LeBron is limited (not greatly but at least noticeably when looked deeper into).

但是，下限高也是有侷限性的，上限高是同樣重要的。當然了，詹姆斯拿了4MVP3冠，他的上限肯定不低。但是我覺得，詹姆斯的比賽風格導致圍繞他打造的球隊陣容的上限是有一定的坎的（這個坎不是很大，但是如果你仔細研究的話，這個坎還是比較明顯的），這麼說應該沒毛病吧？

As I said, you give LeBron the ball, surround him with average players and he'll take that squad farther than anyone ever can. But there's two sides to this coin. LeBron's presence, in all its greatness, demands that everything revolve around him.

我上文中也提到了，把球交給詹姆斯，給他一些平均水平線上的幫手，他能把這支隊伍帶到換做其他人則難以企及的高度。但是硬幣有兩面，詹姆斯這個優點同時也帶來了隱患。詹姆斯的存在固然偉大，但這要求所有的一切圍着他轉。

He is relatively weak without the ball (inconsistent shooting the main culprit here), so to compensate for that, you need the ball in his hands as much as possible. But that limits your ability to run a fluid and versatile offense with other talented guys.

他無球相對較弱（主要是不穩定），所以爲了彌補他無球的缺點，他得儘可能多地持球。但是這就限制了球隊利用其他天賦球員建立流暢機動性強的進攻體系的能力。

As much as all these "Cavs fall apart without LeBron" takes show his value (again, not demeaning him or anything), they certainly also reveal the one potential flaw of building a team around LeBron in that the team must revolve around LeBron. Of course, as a Nets fan, I'd take the seasons LeBron's teams have had any day of the week, but you have to wonder why a team with a guy in the GOAT conversation still in his prime seems to have a limited ceiling.

“騎士沒詹姆斯就崩盤”這種說法在展現詹姆斯的價值的同時，也體現了一個潛在的缺陷：圍繞詹姆斯建隊的球隊離了詹姆斯就轉不開。我再重申一次，這不是詆譭他。當然，我作爲一個籃網球迷，詹姆斯所在的球隊取得的輝煌是我做夢都想經歷的，但是你不得不捫心自問，爲什麼一個有機會把喬丹拉下馬的還處在巔峯期的球員的上限被上了一道坎。

It is just that hard to build a high-ceiling team around him, and even in cases when they do reach high ceilings, it seems more often than not it is due to talent than due to good team-building.

圍繞詹姆斯建立一個上限很高的球隊是很困難的，就算那支球隊着實上限很高，大多時候也是出於天賦的溢出而不是優秀建隊體系。

LeBron and Wade had trouble at first because both had really similar games that revolved around dominating the ball (and the same limitations shooting-wise), but were able to get past it when Wade started declining (but was still an all-NBA caliber player) and the reigns were fully handed to LeBron.

詹韋在合作的第一年遇到了一些麻煩，因爲他們倆的比賽風格都很相似，對球權的要求較高，而且倆人投籃還都挺一般的。但是這些麻煩在韋德進入下滑期、詹姆斯完全掌舵後便消失了。

Same with Kyrie to some extent, where Blatt wanted to establish an offense with Kyrie running the show more but that just was not possible. Lue comes in, the team goes full LeBron-ball mode and they win it all (albeit it was a very narrow win with luck on their side).

在一定程度上，這跟詹歐的情況也有些相似，當初布拉特想建立一個歐文主導的進攻體系，不過那是不現實的。盧指導接管後，這支球隊完全進入了詹姆斯掌舵的模式，最後奪得了總冠軍（雖然是有一定運氣成分的險勝）。

Almost never can you say a team built around LeBron has seen a sustained run of dominance, in large part due to the limitations that LeBron-ball puts on you.

圍繞詹姆斯建隊的球隊幾乎從來不能保持長期的統治力，這很大程度上歸咎於詹姆斯掌舵模式。

Compare this to someone like Curry. Obviously not as good of a player as LeBron. But the nature of his game allows for a team with a higher ceiling. One of the few players in the league just as dangerous and impactful without the ball as he is with it.

跟庫裏這樣的球員相比，雖然庫裏顯然不如詹姆斯優秀，但庫裏領導下的球隊由於他的比賽風格更無私，上限往往更高。聯盟中沒有幾個球員像庫裏一樣無球牽制力大到恐怖的程度。

Can easily create for himself and his teammates with the ball in his hands, but uses his adeptness at playing off-ball to bring out the best in his teammates' skills. It is much easier to build a winning team offense around the skill of Steph Curry, due to the fact that he does not need the ball to be effective and have an impact on his team.

庫裏持球時能輕鬆爲自己以及隊友創造機會，但他對無球的精通使他能最大化提升隊友的技術水平。鑑於庫裏無球也能高效，對球隊產生影響，圍繞庫裏建立一支爭冠球隊的進攻體系相比之下就容易許多。

Playing without the ball allows his team full of playmakers (Dray/Iggy/Livingston) to create offense while Steph Curry is still able to get his and have superstar impact. And the results are clear the past 3 seasons. 67/73/67 wins the past 3 seasons.

庫裏打無球的時候，組織者溢出的勇士隊（一哥、格林和李玟）就能在庫裏無球發揮超巨影響力的同時組織進攻。過去三個賽季67勝、73勝和67勝的出色戰績印證了這一點。

Top 2 offense and defense nearly every year (and when not, they were definitely in the top 5). 2 championships and narrowly missing out on a 3rd in the final minute of a close Game 7. Guys making all-NBA teams and dropping triple double due to the gravity of Curry.

勇士在這三年裏幾乎每個賽季都是進攻防守的前二名，而且就算不在前二，也一定在前五。當然還有兩個冠軍，一次飲恨惜敗。勇士隊內的球員進入最佳陣容、拿到三雙都得益於庫有引力。

Teams willing to allow a 7 foot scoring machine a free pass to the rim because they are that afraid of Curry shooting even a contested 3. Guys who were nothing but memes the year before all of a sudden playing crucial minutes and making big plays in playoff games.

現在的對手寧願讓杜蘭特這個中鋒身高的得分機器一路輕鬆襲擊籃筐的原因就是他們甚至都不敢讓庫裏投干擾防守下的三分。加入勇士之前就是笑柄的球員在季後賽發揮了至關重要的作用。

All these are possible because of the kind of environment that Curry creates and the results don't lie. People have started to take 67-win seasons for granted since the Warriors run of dominance has started, but people forget that before 2014, no team had won 67 games in 7 years and only 2 had done it since the turn of the century.

沒有庫裏，這一切都不可能。勇士這三年取得的成績就是最好的證明。勇士開始統治聯盟之後人們突然覺得67勝的成績是不值大書特書的，但是別忘了，2007-2014這七年中根本就沒有球隊獲得過67勝，進入二十一世紀以來也只有兩支球隊做到過。

Yes, 67 is an arbitrary number and other teams have done 66, but this isn't about just the number. It is about reaching a point and staying there. The fact that they've hit a point that so few have and kept it up for 3 straight years (each year having the best record in the league by 6+ games) just shows the potential of a team built around Curry.

是，67勝是一個比較挑剔的數字，其他球隊獲得過66勝啊，但是問題不僅僅是數字。問題的核心是，勇士達到67勝的水平後就沒掉下來過。勇士到達了一個其他球隊未曾企及的水準，並連續保持了三年，這三年內每年常規賽勇士都至少領先聯盟第二6個勝場。這一切都顯示了圍繞庫裏建隊的球隊上限有多高。

Yes, he had KD this past year, but if anything, that only proves my point more because it shows how Curry's game is more accommodating to bringing in talent while still allowing everyone to have superstar impact within the system.

庫裏上賽季有杜蘭特的幫忙沒錯，但這其實更證明了我的觀點：庫裏的比賽風格使球隊在引進天賦球員的同時保障所有人都在勇士體系內有超巨水平的發揮。

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